Mini Sumo Robot

Here are the wheel pics! :smiley:

Brass wheel with silicone tread.
http://www.lee.tomszuba.com/panther/silicone_wheel.jpg

Both wheels with the lump from the bottom of the mixing cup.
http://www.lee.tomszuba.com/panther/wheels_silicone.jpg

The hubs on the lump showing my crappy machining.
http://www.lee.tomszuba.com/panther/hub_silicone.jpg

More of the hubs.
http://www.lee.tomszuba.com/panther/hub_silicone2.jpg

What do you think??? :smiley:

I just saw your stuff! very nice work! I had to use my pocket pc phone to see the tiny images but hey, I got to see it!

NICE! How did you do it? Can you share some tricks of the trade??? :smiley:

Also, could this method be used for other kinds of rubber?

Not sure how he did it. but this site may help you.

brooksbots.com/ExSpurt%20Tires.htm

lucky, u have a machine shop :cry:l i want one

I only gotsa drill press :cry: …and a desk drinder :wink:

I do have a mill and a lathe that really helped out when I was making the brass hubs and the mold but it is possible to make a mold with other various tubing and round things. I’m sure it could be used for other rubber but you may need a mold realese.My method was very similar to the brooks bots website but I only cast one wheel at a time.

Using the dragon skin you have to mix very carefully to avoid bubbles, unless you can buy a $1000 vacuum chamber to do 25 cent wheels.

I’m sure you could do this with a drill press. You would just have to buy premade wheels.

just curious and I don’t want to derail the thread to any significant degree… but how much vacuum do you need? could you cheat and use a shop vac?

I have used a “foodsaver” vacuum sealer and a large storage cannister attachment (with a big sticker on it that it is not to be used for food) to de-air silicone molds, and dental plaster and resin castings.

Admittedly, I haven’t worked with the same silicone product that is being discussed here, and the same technique may or may not work due to differences in viscosity, but with the stuff I usually work with, the foodsaver does a good job of pulling a vacuum that’s strong enough to dislodge and remove the bubbles fairly reliably. I usually combine the vacuum with the good old “smack the mold around a bit” technique, just to be sure, though with some molds and/or castings, getting a bit too enthusiastic can dislodge more than just bubbles and cause you to need a re-cast.

I don’t think you could use a shop vac but it’s worth trying. I find the best thing is just to be carful mixing to avoid bubbles in the first place, A couple little bubbles are not worth the hassle. :smiley:

My panther minisumo redesign is almost done!

I have the holes cut for the object sensors. Brackes for the blade to mount on the top and bottom so I don’t have to fiddle with nuts. The brackets are custom machined. The bottom one is brass for the extra weight and the top is aluminum so it doesn’t do wheelies.

And I am done populating the curcuit board.

I think I might have to do the wheels over again because they rub on the chassis. And I have to cast two more tires.

Pics if anyone wants. :smiley: :wink:

You have to ask?

Bring 'em on!

VERY nice job with the PCB! If you don’t mind me asking how did you make it? I can’t seem to find any DIY methods that don’t require a laser printer.

He made them using a simple program and a compagny made them for him. He got 4 of these PCB.

Here are example of website that offer this service.

expresspcb
pcbexpress
pcb123
apcircuits
etc.

I am guessing he got this made in Alberta since he lives in Toronto.

I will be at the CNRG this November!

Jerome
ps- This is my first post so I can not post u.r.l

Ahhh… I see. Normally when you get custom made PCBs they use a green coating which protects the PCB. Without it, PCBs look DIY-Yellow or DIY-White. His looked yellow so I thought he made them himself.

I used sunstone circuits. I did not want to go with any of the extra features because it is double the price. I used gift cards from last year’s CNRG.

Jerome; have you been to CNRG before? What are some of your robots?

If you were there you may remember Spacejunk or Mini Muncher. Or maybe Toddler.

See you in November! :smiley:

Ahh, I see. For future reference… If you need PCBs made and don’t have any gift cards then use batchpcb.com! They charge only $2.5 per square inch. Its cheap man!! A $22 board from batchpcb was quoted $75 by sunstone.

I know, I was almost regretting using sunstone because of the price for a simple PCB. Batch PCB gets expensive in big numbers, thats where the bigger companies are better.

Also my software can not do solder mask layers.

PS an equal board is $200 form sunstone

Hey,

One important note about batchpcb is that there are slow for Canada user. I read on a forum that it took more the 1 month to get his PCB! He lives in Alberta. Quote from there FAQ

Jerome; have you been to CNRG before? What are some of your robots?
Yes I was there last year with Robomontreal and I saw YOU! MUWAHAHAHAHA!

My robot was the cube
youtube.com/watch?v=qNTiDmnW7FE

Check my video on youtube!
youtube.com/jeromedemers

This is my 3kg sumo RHINO!
youtube.com/watch?v=bfs3wGuxiQk

I am know making a other 3kg sumo robot. I will not bring Rhino the the CNRG.

I am making a 500gr advanced sumo robot to beat Windshield. I had some serious problems with electronics, it took me more then 4 days to find the problem!! My pic was working and motor spinning. When I connected my sensor board to the PICPCB, everything stop working! I tested everything and then soldered a 100uf cap to the circuit and the problems was solved!!!

My robot is now moving in the ring without falling off!!! I will test the sensor this week.

I will make a normal sumo robot for the non-advance robot to beat you!
Are you in the advance or normal sumo?

Good luck!

ps- I don’t know if I will post pictures :smiling_imp: TOP SECRET!

Check out Luis video of the 500gr sumo at Robogames2007
youtube.com/watch?v=fgcqJKdQGCM
AWESOME!!!

Jerome

CNRG is Open and Masters. I will be in open, as always. Masters is a lot harder, diffrent rules too. I had a problem with not being able to porgram that took me a week to fix. All I had to do was switch two wires on my programmer! :smiley:

Prepare to LOSE!!! :smiling_imp: