this bourd is really a tough and i wish i hadnt bought it, i have been only able to use the basicmicro ide one time since i did and it was like two day job just to get my computer to accept the drivers cause i could not get the on I needed from the site, where to get the right one and then it would accept none of the changes that i made to the original program, on a windows7, hp laptop, and then the drive on my brand new laptop i payed three hundred dollars for, quit, and the manufacture refused to fix it. i have ya to find anyprograms that i could use to run except the one on the ide, then it erased the program that was on it and there is no copy of it, this really pissed me off cause it was better than a flex program, ocillating the servos, i have yet got a responce even when I have offered to pay for help programming, i have built this biloid on the contexet that the manufacture had a way to programm this device yet the only software that seems avalible is for another device and fingers piont to it might but some point to they dont, ive yet to pinpoint a system that could really work for what I expect out of these different parts that seem to indicate that that the stuff you want dont really work with what you want, now i have a windows 7 premium x64 and no matter what I try for like three day it seems im wasting my time, and im trying to figure I can buy a thirty dollar printer and have less trouble saving driver than a microcontroller i probley have almost a 500 to a thousand dollers in trying to program and it wont hardly work but for about maby the whole time for the year and a half ive been trying to get it to run this scout, with arc32, my robot runs fine if you like having a manipulator the scrolles the motors, for like 1800 dollars! this is cool.
john M, raunick 4
strickly
ps never again and I think basic micro should have to pay for all my loss in this whole project cause it a pain in the servos, jagar4
Other than being upset, I am not sure what your question or point is, if any? You will more likely get more complete helpful feedback if you rephrase it to give us more specific information like, I tried this, it did not work as it gave me this message…
The one main issue with the Arc32 board is on a Windows machine with 64 bit operating system, the version of the FTDI drivers they are not signed and sometimes windows does not accept unsigned drivers. There are several threads both on this forum as well as Basic Micros forum, for how to install the appropriate drivers, such as: viewtopic.php?f=45&t=6502
If your hard disk failed on a brand new HP laptop, I would assume that HP and/or the store you purchased it from should be able to help you. That is obviously not an issue with the Arc32 board.
There are several program up on forums that work on the Arc32. For example I have one of them running in my Phoenix Hexapod. Also Basic Micro Studio installs several example programs when it installs. You can load these from the example menu…
If you have specific problems with a specific program or command, please post the specifics of your program that you are having issues with.
hey, about my previous repliy, i have been working with a touchscreen lx2, hp with windows 7 premium, and have turned the visual program mode on when the bios starts, made sure there was no firewall on , no other administration accounts and tried every driver i could, in every sequence I could and tried what was on the thread, you posted and have read every post i could find in regards to this situation, and no cigar, it saves the bus.inf, and shows serial converter, but when i put save the port.inf it sends a back that there was an error loading the driver and the serial converter shows a link to a serial port, but there is no port settings addvanced settings, or drop down latency, to change the com port to one, some time if i try different configurations it saves a link calling it basicmicro com port
but has an error flag and has no addv sett, dropdown lat. and reverts back to the original unknown device if i use a mp3 cable, but show a simple com port as a link to the bus, if i use the cable that i used when I was conecting with before my original hp win7 32 crashed, i tried driver for 32x hp but still, i tryed to use f8 at startup and still nothing, but the bouard functions and stands the manipulator after zeroing the servos it sences the gyro, cause it has control of thbe motor through the arc32 and adaps to the uart conection of it cause if i remove it to a new pin it takes a few cicles before it takes control of the servo im uing for balance through the gyro, though i cannot install the drivers, jmjr4 jagar45
are u rhere, i saved the dpinst64.exe first returns basicmicro com port, with yellow flag, then i uninstaled to save cdm20814 whql certified.zip and this returns the state where it shows the serial port linked to the bus thru the serial converter, but serial port also shows a yello flag and i tryed disabling these drivers after reboot and still even using ftdi vertual com port, driver for 32bit and 64 bit still fetch a errror showing the driver not installed properly, im not mad its just depressing to try so hard to be a part of the group and it seems there no way to join in the fun, and it is a real let down for something u work so hard for, i had previously found a vertual ide that you could use that not only showed the manipulator vertualy, but gave feedback in the build, but the links were on the old hp and was lost in the crash, for a monthly licence fee, but dont remember the software name, this was the only programm that i could find previously that could have benifited my endeaver, but not sure if it was compatible. jagar45,
If you are using an x64 system, then this is the driver you need: downloads.basicmicro.com/downloa … nsPort.zip
Once you install the drivers, you should be able to plug in the board and your computer should detect it.
If you encounter issues, there are some known fixes as kurte indicated.
The fact that the board worked before means it is likely not defective and you seem to be having additional issues with your computer rather than the board.
The suggested software is “Basic Micro Studio” which can be downloaded here: downloads.basicmicro.com/downloa … 0-0-18.exe
There is sample code available, and the following page shows how to access it: basicmicro.com/Sample-Code_ep_72-1.html
If you purchased the arc32 from RobotShop and are not satisfied with it, and are within the 30 day return / 90 day exchange period, you can contact us via the support center and we would be more than happy to help you find a product more to your liking. We work hard to ensure you are satisfied with your purchase.
i get depressed sometimes, about things but ill try again now you have inspired me.
if there is anything that i can do for you, let me know, and is there somewhere i could leave some of my ideas for you or is here a safe place.
john raunick
jagar45
ps. I made the brackets to see if i could make this project to work, but believe me i cant wait to purchase the real brackets cause yours look so much nicer, i had to save money, so i could buy the servos, i would like to also purchase the visual sequencer, and the ssc-32u board for my son, AND IM TRYING to convince my step daughters to be interested in electronics so i could have help, with the math ad programming since they seem to be pretty smart but with the problems im having it not looking good to them, i want to purchas the fourleg spider for my son to learn with. more maby bette4r pictures for you. jagar4
Robotics is still in its “infancy” and we have all been through the frustration stage… which by the way takes a while…
Every product and every project has its challenges and we certainly understand that at times it feels like you hit a brick wall and can’t move forward. We are here to help if we can, but it’s important to take a deep breath first, write out the e-mail and then go over it, eliminating unnecessary information. It may even help you find a different approach or even the solution.
We tend to try to post here so others can benefit from the communications, but if there is something really confidential, you can always use instant messages, or contact us at [email protected]. Never provide payment information or personal information here since it is immediately public.
This is jagar45 again and I just wanted to tell you that im definitly felling better about the situation since i seems the problem i was having could have been because i could not find the right driver, and the ones i was using did not show a serial port in the third window, where there is four serial converters a,b,c,d but this program for the 64x had a serial port icon which i was able to highlight, therefore finally I found the drop down latency in the addv. settings window,and or it was because the firewall was not completely disabled, but then i downloaded a program that was supposed to be for the scout and a ps2 which i have wired like the diagrams, then it moved a couple of times the the status light stopped flashing and now im getting a error cannot open com port, now its returning directory name is invaled, and the library just opens and gives a basicmicro and lynxmoition icon and thats it no programs. but im still trying and if you have any input about my problem now then please send a message here for me , jagar45 p.s. now it states could not open outputfile in the build box
The wiring may be incorrect somewhere (if you can provide a clear image or images we can take a look)
The board does not have proper power, or there is a power issue (which explains why it worked for a while then stopped)
The adapter is “glitchy”
So:
Ensure you have powered the board correctly on VL and VS and checked the jumpers (if you are using a different voltage to power the servos as compared to the logic, then you’ll need to remove the VL=VS jumpers).
Check that VL is powered correctly at ~9V (ideal) and that your supply can provide enough current. 9V batteries have a tendency of dying.
Get your electronics to work reliably, with only a few servos connected (which are not in the Scout) so it’s easier to troubleshoot than a complete system.
Ensure your VS is at no more than 6V and that all servos are connected properly to the board.
… just keep digging and be aware glitches like this happen with almost all robotic projects
this jr again, it seem everything the same but it appears that the programming on the board is missing because the drivers where missing off the bus also, im looking to see what else IO could figure out ill get back to you soon. the yellow light stoped flashing also and does not anymore. could it be a bootloader programm or am i imagining of such a thing.before this event it would flash indicator light and it would continue to scoll the motors and right after i down loaded a program that i cince realized that was for, programm states abb,bb2with antom pro, to scc-32, so im trying to figure what this did during programming download, any more suggestions. i have the antom wired with two 1600 ub power batteries and the micro is wired seperate from the servos, ill work on the pictures or video for you tell me what i owe you for your time ill do what i can, jagar4
Pictures are a bit blurry to be able to see anything… sorry. There are many ways to troubleshoot, but if you’re not sure where to start, strip the board down to its bare essentials - no servos, USB power only. See if it connects to the computer properly, and if not:
See if it’s powered properly
Check the driver
Check to see if anything looks burnt on the board
Is the right COM port selected?
Go over the product’s user manual line by line for getting the board started to see if you may have missed something.
hello,
I just wanted to say that the only thing else i found was basic micro ide says
starting complier,
preparing files…
error: could not open output file
errors detected
ln 3, col50, chars 0
the servos twitch when i apply power to s2,s3
but now after rebooting my hp, the driver is missing from the bus on the serial converter, and the arc no longer shows up on the device manager, and this is the reason i came with the first posting thaT
let everyone to believe i was mad and so ill just continue with my investigation and when they stop me and ask why its not done ill just advize them i cnt hardly work with programms this complicated, and the saboge
yoursw jagar45
Again sorry you are having problems. Also I do understand your frustration and there are people like CBenson who are trying to help you. If it were me, I would now start off with Baby steps, to get stuff up and working (hopefully). Much of what I am saying is to reiterate what he suggested earlier.
Uninstall Basic Micro Studio. Preferably from the Control Panel (Programs and features). Reboot your computer. Run a Scan disk or the like to make sure you do not have any bad links and the like on your disk. Redownload the latest version of Studio from the Basic Micro website: basicmicro.com/Downloads_ep_43.html And install it again.
Start up Basic Micro Studio. Go to the drop down lists toward the top of the program and choose: BasicAtomPro in the first drop down. In the 2nd drop down choose Bap Arc32. For now don’t worry about the 3rd drop down
Load the program b0010 - arc32.bas from the Library menu. Click on the “Build b0010 - arc32.bas” button. Does it compile properly? If not something wrong with your setup. Things like what type of user are you on your machine? User or Administrator? Where is your temporary folder configured? Do you have the right permissions?
Unplug everything from your board except for the power going to VL. I don’t know which version of the Arc32 you have, I personally do not have any of the current version. What are you using to power the logic? Is it a battery? If so make sure it has a charge or if something like a 9v battery, try a new one. Now plug in your USB connector. After you do this, is the Device loaded? Does a new Comm port show up on your computer. If not, go back to the steps I mentioned in previous postings about installing device driver on 64 bit machines. But if a driver is installed, choose that Comm port in the 3rd drop down list in the IDE. Now hit the Program button. Does the program now download to the board? If so, open a terminal window at bottom of IDE, choose the appropriate comm port and set the baud rate to 9600 and hit the connect button. Does the program run and stuff printed in the terminal window?
If 4) worked, now start adding more stuff back on to your Arc32. Like add your power wires back for the servos. If this is a newer board and you use multiple power sources, you may need to remove jumpers on the board that connect these together… Does the program still work?
Now start plugging in a few servos. Does it still work? Keep adding more stuff on…
Again it always helps people help you if you give information, like what power sources you are using. How many servos and type you have connected. Also a clear picture(s) help. Things to look for are servos that are plugged in correctly (not upside down or offset by a pin…)…
This is gonna be good, i have to tell u that i am so flabergasted from what I just saw, starting the instuctions and the help that i have just received from u! To start i was completely withdrawn from the idea of continuing to work on the project other than my favorite thing is a robotic android, just something to do with mechanics of it all together, and that the fact that the lord could give us the inteligence to create something to help us so similair to us, and the fun in it when all goes well.
But after what just happen i have completely made a 180 and im at full attention.
When i cleared the basic micro ide from the computer and restarted, the skan disk returned that the hard disk passed, and memory test ok of 3,993,210,880 bytes, then after windows configured i checked for basic micro ide and then loged onto basicmicro site to download the ide, the modem im using is broadband to go and it came on board with a widow asking to reinstall the driver for the device,
Which seems strange cause it never did that before i had to force it too, then during the down load of the idevelopment enviroment i saw the % of down load to be alot less than the time left for the transmission, i then exstracted the document to be installed as u told me, during reboot it did alot of facinating things i dont know where they came from , but the i looked for the serial port in the device manager and when i went to open the window with the icon some thing blew up into the whole screen, and then it froze, it was so facinating it kinda looked like a bitmap of the inside of the microcip itself, cause i saw the scematics of this device from a site of hitachi,kinda looked likethe arc pins all around the board, i then rebooted the comp again and then i loaded and saveed the drivers after ajusting the dropdowns in the ide, the com port dropdown showed com3, then just before i hit program i prayed, when i tried to program the micro, it returned atom pro must be connected to program, i was flabergasted thinking i still had the same problem, but remembering what the instructions said i change the build window to comport 1 and to 9600 baud for sum reason and expanded the window to find a icon that said “reset” and to my curiosity the complier started to translate something it seemed like for a breif pause, end then it stoped with a, i cant quite remember but it said no errors it happened so fast, so i went back to the programm button to start where i left off from the instructions you gave me and the programm dfown loaded and my heart just fluttered with enthusiasum at the fact that u all helped me from somewhere else, to fix what i was starting to feel was a lost cause, and after seeing the only program for the arc in a thread which i cant remember where i think this is an ausm device, that its new nickname for me ausum and sucsessfull, cant spell itheir, my hands hurt but you all did it, and im so inpressed, that this should be put somewhere all could asee what you did for me and im looking forward to working with you more.
your freind and colige jagar45
hello, i have just one request before i start to try to brainstorm on the possiblities of programming the arc-32 to control what enevitably become the scout soon as i get a debt card from my bank account to order two more servos since i only have 5 degrees of freedom to 6 degrees, and the scout framing for the scout lynxmition produces and a ssc-32u, vs for my son and girls to start, but i was wondering when I purchased the arc it came with a program that when i assembled it with my servos, it simulated running in place but when i downloaded b0010-arc32 from the ide library it erased the progrm from the arc, is it possible that there is aplace to get another copy of it, and is there places to get more software for this manipulator which is pretty much structured like the scout after i in stall two more servos, and do you have any suggestions on what is the easiest way to learn programming in basic, asm, c++, then i will get back to you on what things i can come up with on this,
This is jagar4
it seems as thought the arc is working quite well at this time, the batteries are staying up, the machine is showing some signs of continual inprovement, as i have kept working with the editor to get some form understanding of the basic programming, and how the code works with the servos, i now have managed to find a method to perform what ive read about ssc32, as have the ability to make group moves, which works very well with the arc, i have found that from reading other peoples threads on the forum that somyme have wondered if the arc is alive, well my andriod seems as though it is trying to comunicate with some inteligence, like i was running smaller versions of servos to produce ya and roll, and on servo became as though it was stuck, and would not turn, i notices that the other wrist of the manipulators arm started to wiggle back and forth as though it was tring to indicate something, i was ingnoring the fact that i was doing this till i noticed that its right arm kept having A problem with the bolts coming loose and the program would normaly move to the position that i programmed it to but the after the bolt coming loose a few times and retighning it, the manipulators arm kept reaching beyond the normal postion and stop while reaching for its shoulder, then after seing this it made me think of the fact that it was wiggling it wrist for some reason i realized that the servo motor in itsw left hand was froze and not moving and it seemed as thiough it was trying to tell me this, simalar to the fact that it seemed as though it was reaching for its shoulder indicating its bolts were loose, so im starting to notice that even though it does not have vision yet that it can communicate in a form of pantimines so to speek, like it also seems to use the motors to make noises that sound like insinuations, like its trying to comunicate. does that not seem very interesting to you.
jagar4
