RobotShot LMR management
I was considering leaving LMR about two weeks prior to the announcement of new ownership. In general, I am in agreement with the changes being implemented. My major regrets is the loss of online friends that hold an opposite viewpoint.
I have struggled with the notion of ownership of material on LMR. Over that past year we saw a few examples of members efforts being hijacked by less than ethical sites. A common train of thought was “Publish first on LMR” to establish ownership and set an open identity. We assumed that LMR was a protective umbrella similar to the Open Software Foundation. As we have since learned, this is not the case and never was. We put material on a machine someplace on the internet and that collective material generated value for the owner.
To me, it is no different now. The entity RobotShop, supplying the online resources, is in possession of the material. I am not a l lawyer and do not even want to ponder ownership. I am sure that there are different interpretations and legal standards throughout the world. However, if there is a feeling of deceit regrading finical gain, ask yourself “Who has gained?” from this transition. Whether it was $0.10 or $10,000,000. it was not RobotShop. If anything, they paid money for a site that they believed had value and after just 2 weeks must have questioned their initial assessment.
On the other side of the equation, I believe that the member contributions to LMR are the most valuable asset. Posting pictures of completed project is nice. Shows what an individual can do with the available resources. Articles with details are what I look for. Someone half way around the globe providing detail and a willingness to help others succeed is the real value of LMR. I have been amassed by the way LMR accepts new builders with helpful nudges to their overly ambitious project or complete lack of understanding the basics.
I think we need RobotShop to establish and publish guidelines regarding language, ownership, and behavior in a manner that is clear to the most casual user. I then expect RobotShop to enforce those guidelines in a completely overt manner. We have conventions as to driving on the “right” side of the road. When in England I adjust to the “right” side. It is a small price for the comport and security that the convention provides. Same on the internet, respect others and expect respect in return.
I overstepped the politeness line in a forum posting that personally attacked OddBot for what I considered inappropriate action in the Shout Box. Apparently RobotShop thought the same as the post has been removed. To me, this was the the proper action. I did expect an email describing their action but things were not progressing smoothly with the entire site.
BTW, my rant against OddBot shows why we need guidelines. OddBot typed a line that essentially said “Entirely useless”. The prior conversation had changed (at my end) from a discussion of diodes to the merits of BDK writing technical papers. I am willing to allow that OddBot was referring to a component on a schematic. If this misunderstanding was due either internet lag or the SB getting messages out of order, I owe him an apology. This entire event would never (I hope) have happened if we had limited SM conversations to polite “How are you doing” conversations and posted technical comments or corrections via the forum reply mechanism.
My other complaint against LMR was excessive use of profanity in the SB. I want my grandchildren to build robots and could not point them to LMR as it stood. At that time I was unaware that the SB was not visible to non-members. RootShop implemented the On/Off feature. Moving in the right direction but I think it should be something more restrictive. There should be a waiting period, say 2 weeks, before a new user or censored member can post any messages. I also think there should be multiple SB options. I don’t want a PG15 style system and I don’t want an “elders” verses “newbies” separation.
There are a few ways in which an organization such as RobotShop could enhance the LMR community:
- They have the resources to improve the posting procedure to smoothly support embed videos.
- They have a customer base that might be in need of an “expert” for hire. Especially in the 3D printing arena.
- They could provide kits to members that will evaluate and accurately post experience.
They could sponsor contests that showcase their products.
All 4 sentences started with “They”. The member supplied material is already there. RobotShop needs to find a method to protect and enhance its value. I need to find a mechanism to remain in contact with friends lost in the mess.