Sumo Bot V.2 aka Labotimize

Okay, The first one was okay, but in six weeks, I have to go to the West Point military academy and compete in four more events, one being Sumo Bots. "We can rebuild him, we have the technology" Construction for Labotimize begins today, Pics up tomorow, hopefully the La-bot-amy videos will be up tomorow also

RULES (more or less)

  1. Wiegh under 2.5 Kg
  2. voltage must not exceed 18 volts
  3. robotmust fit in 30cm x 30 cm square
  4. must operate on at least 3 frequencies (we have 7 sets of crystals)
  5. competition is in a 4'x4' square

Improvements

  • Lighter
  • MORE TOURQUE!
  • more manuverable
  • MORE TOURQUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Motors

396.89 grams each

http://www.superdroidrobots.com/shop/item.asp?itemid=721&catid=7

Update:

After seeing these motors on the bot, I highly suggest you use these for a sumo bot. They are EASY to mount and have great speed and torque

 

Controller

~34 grams

http://www.dimensionengineering.com/Sabertooth2X10RC.htm

Total weight

2-12-09, 827.78 Grams

UPDATE:

CONSTRUCTION IS FINISHED!!!! ITS AWSOME! Okay, so this bot will be used in the Mightybot Challenge and in the Science Olympiad Sumo Bot event in Westpoint New york in march, Today when we fired it up, we pushed 5 KILOS!!!!! THE BOT WIEGHS 1.6 kilos! so efficiency is about %320 efficiency I will post Pictures tomorow and a video link also. I'm pretty excited with this guy

 

Okay, states is over, final weight of bot...2.2 kilos, wieght pushed 11.2 lbs (5 kilos), so 119% efficient, poop

WE GOT 5th PLACE out of 54 Teams!!

I want to see if any one can figure out the two things we did to reduce interfearance

  • Actuators / output devices: 2x 1:71 gear right angle motors
  • Control method: radio controlled - no micro controller - at least not this time
  • Power source: 2x 7.2 2200mAh NiMH
  • Target environment: indoor flat surfaces

This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://community.robotshop.com/robots/show/sumo-bot-v-2-aka-labotimize

one question

Is “lighter” a good thing in sumo-bots? I’ve always thought you wanted them as heavy as possible (within the limits of course).

/ vzz-clck-“Maneuver”

well, it usually is, but in
well, it usually is, but in this competition, in the event of a stalemate, the lighter robot wins

you never said a weight
you never said a weight restriction?

 

Motor driver/ controller
How are you going to switch frequencies with the sabertooth? To wire a motor from that thing one would just ignore the signal wire and wire - and + right?

sorry, well the rules are
sorry, well the rules are here, so feel free to read, Ill post the highlights above

we are using a futaba
No, we are using a futaba reciever (R132JE AM 27 MHz), we will feed the two channel outputs to the sabertooths channel 1 and 2 inputs, how else are we going to controll it? :stuck_out_tongue:

oops
Whoops, I forgot to look at the sabertooth documentation. I thought that there was a receiver built in for some reason. I was thinking of building a battlebot, where did you get your reciever and transmitter?

well, they were on sale at a
The sabertooth is pretty pulg n play huh? well, they were on sale at a local r/c shop (dans crafts n things) for 40 bucks paired, if you want one theres one here, it comes with the transmitter, reciever, 2 servos, and a battery pack

sabertooth
Yeah, The saber tooth looks very easy to use. No complex motor drivers to make or anything,really. It looks awesome. And I think I may bid on that ebay auction

- A main image on this
- A main image on this project would be REALLY nice!

Your sumo bot should weigh
Your sumo bot should weigh basically 2.5kg, no point in having a lighter robot to win a draw if you flat out lose in the first place. Some pics would be great.

might want to protect the
might want to protect the top a bit better no ?

well, we figured it was
well, we figured it was protected enough with the acrylic shield

Nice Fan, is it really
Nice Fan, is it really getting that hot?

When we first tested it, we
When we first tested it, we stalled it, and loaded down the controller, we needed to cool it to allow it to drive 10A and higher almost continuously for 2 minutes at a time(the length of the match)

ok, now i understand, 10A is

ok, now i understand, 10A is frigging lot of current The drivers I am using in my current project would propably melt ( they get pretty warm with just 2,2 A)

yea, our first design used
yea, our first design used relays, in a nutshell we smoked a few :stuck_out_tongue: (Partially due to low rated contacts)

the funny thing is that the
the funny thing is that the Gearboxes on the motors alone weigh more than the batteries, our center of gravity is actually just behind the forward most point on the wheels. Our problem during the competition was the scoop didnt stay on the ground if we accelerated too quickly, this problem caused us to loose our final match to a bot that ws fast enough to get under us before the scoop came down!

I’ll draw up a few ideas,
I’ll draw up a few ideas, Thanks!