Robot Care?

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Robots are now found in the workplace, at home and even in space. many of these robots operate without direct human intervention, or minimal oversight.
It can be argued (especially in the context of production) that a robotic system is more reliable (and produces a higher quality result) than a human for the same given task. In which of the following domains should robots and robotic systems be given complete control?

]Air force/:m]
]Construction/:m]
]Elderly care/:m]
]Law enforcement/:m]
]Government Finances/:m]
]Correctional Facilities/:m]
]Space exploration/:m]
]Medical procedures/:m]

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Hey guys, it is a really interesting topic that we have here.

Today, we do not have robots in space; we have remote controlled machines. Da Vinci, the most advanced surgical robot is completely controlled by a Human and all robotic platforms we know in law enforcement are all controlled at distance by a human. All industrial Robots that I saw have a big red button that allow a human to take over…and I still have the control over all my domestic robots…

Anyway, I think we miss the point. Even if we project ourselves in the future, if we think this way, I think we miss the point.

Forgot the mechanic aspect of the robots for a moment and think of it in terms of intelligence - IPS (instruction per second). The capacity of the human brain is estimated at around 10 to the power of 14 (100 trillion IPS) and this capacity has not changed a lot within the last millennium…

Personal computer today provide more than 10 to the power of 9 IPS. According to the exponential growth of computing, they will reach the brain capacity by 2025. The IBM Blue Gene/L supercomputer provide some peak of more than 300 trillion IPS today, 3 times the brain power. According to some scientists and IT gurus, it is reasonable to believe that by 2050, if the trends of exponential growth of the price-performance, capacity and speed of our hardware continue, one thousand dollars of computing will exceed the processing power of all human brain on earth…

I think the future is not robots against humans or humans having control over robots… I think if we think like this, we miss the point and we will lose the game.

We, Human, will need to merge with technology if we want to survive. Period. We will still call ourselves human, but we will be made of flesh and machine… We will have full control over things, as we have right now, but in a different way.

Ho, and yes… the human of tomorrow (or robots), depends on how you want to call them, will be much more capable and much more intelligent. I am working on it. A lot of people are working on it. And I strongly believe this is for a better world, because if we look around today, we have a lot of things to improve and a lot of big issues to fix… Too much in my opinion for our actual capacity.:sunglasses:

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I think this is the good way to see it. Technology (Robots) is there to help us to become better as human beings and also help us to build a better world. :sunglasses:

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Robots are almost entirely in charge of space exploration. Mars is the second planet we have decided to try to visit - all other missions that have goen beyond this earth have been done by “robots” (technically satellites). A prison with only two guards monitoring surveillance cameras, while robots did the rest would save money and (potentially) lives. In the event of a crisis, support would be called in. Same goes for elderly care - the humans would simply monitor to see if something is abnormal.

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Satellites that exit our solar system have “complete control”. I also believe that prisons can be run with no external interference, though we may be a ways away from the technology. The rest on that list may take longer.

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Even if a robot is given complete control, it is still governed by its programming, which puts some limitations… It isn’t like we would let robots do anything we did not intend them to do as designers. Designers would simply need to make their robots evolve towards autonomy and eventually they could have complete control over the scope of their programming…

Complete is relative to the task they need to accomplish and in many cases, no one single robot will be in complete control. Look at how insects cooperate to accomplish complex tasks in a swarm.

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This still doesn’t change the fact that robots have the potential of being better then humans at many tasks. I, for example would freak out going through a narrow tunnel. Not surprising that 100% of voters so far believe robots are well suited to fully autonomous space exploration. That is a very harsh environment, very hostile to humans with the various types of radiation involved.

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Complete control is a large idea. I don’t think that robots should be given complete control of anything. They are defiantly an integral aspect of our society, yet malfunctions do occur. Human intervention will always be needed.

Josh

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Obviously you didn’t read the poll…“complete control”…means no human intervention.

If there are human monitoring things then the robots are not in complete control. Maybe you should read a dictionary, instead of drinking cola…that kills brain cells you know :slight_smile:

Josh

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Unless I misunderstood, I seem to think the question is again misunderstood…The question was not should robots be given complete control “When the technology is ready”. It was simply should robots be given complete control. We are accepting things at a much faster rate than yesteryear, although time will either prove me right or wrong. But humans will always be the masters, and thereby ultimately always have complete control.

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Are you serious? It appears that you are a smart guy. That notwithstanding…“Things that we suck at”…are you insane? It appears that you are not giving the human race much credit. Don’t forget we are the ones that created machines. The simple fact that a car can indeed parallel park itself is impressive, and given time you may be proven correct. As I mentioned in my previous post time will either prove me right or prove me wrong. (I’ll take the Darwinian approach.) But the fact remains, just because a robot can do it…Should they be “allowed” to have full control?

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I do admit once we achieve a certain level of progress, then things will merge. I can see the benefits of this. They can be more like “partners” instead of master/slave. What do you guys think about that?

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You have an illusion of control…Soon robots will control everything…

I say…amen.

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@jcouto - Studies are already proving that cars can be driven better by robots than humans. I saw this thing where the robot totally parallel parks the car and everything. The way I see it is this…first they “help humans” do things that we suck at. Then they are “in control” but we will have the option to override, then the option to override will be password protected…then it will be removed. It’s coming…if you can’t see that…all I can say is wow…

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That’s what I’m saying man…Robots are the future. Even the present! It’s not a competition it’s a blending, we need to form a symbiotic relationship. Fighting will just slow down the eventual. Don’t fight…Join.

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Yes. Giving complete control to robots is tricky. I say no to “complete” control. I like the idea of having “some” control over a robot specially if its taking “care of the elderly”.

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I am not saying that complete control is wrong but I certainly do not think that our society is ready to give complete control to Robots. People love control, control brings them power!! Right? I do think that Robots will help us in a very near futur, well they actually are helping us already! But complete control… not sure about that! I would leave it in space for the moment! But hey that’s just me :wink: