Who all is interested in participating in a Robo-One event in the U.S.?
I would like to set one up in the Seattle area, but I am going to need 2 things. 1: Competitors, 2: Judging Rules.
I have talked to a couple people that have the KHR-1 robots, but they have indicated that they don’t want to risk any damage to their robots so they are not interested in participating.
Robo-One is famous for the combat event, but according to the rules, only the top 16 robots advance to the combat portion of the event.
The top 16 robots come from the Gymnastics event, the Door event, the Stairs event, and the Eagle event.
The drawback to the published rules is that they are not written in such a way for a person to organize and run the event, or judge it and score it.
I have emailed Japan about this, but the some how in the translation, the request for rules to judge the event was lost, and they sent me the same rules that are published on their website.
So, let me know who is interested in participating, and second, if you know where a set of rules that are writted for judges, can you let me know where to get them.
What is robo one? Is it the Linxmotion biped humanoid? If it is, I have not seen this name anywhere on the Linxmotion website.
I did a search on “Robo-ONE” and I found a site that seems to only be about biped robot events. Much of the text was in Korean, I think, and it was hard to figure out what the site was really about.
I also found results pertaining to the KHR. Please excuse my ignorance.
It is in Japanese. There is also a Korean website with some limited english rules.
Right now there is no incentive for the Japanese and the Koreans to make up to date english rules, because we Americans are not interested enough to actually build robots to enter the contest. Until we can show them that we are serious about this event, then they will make it a point to post rules in english. Its the catch 22. We don’t build robots for the contest because there are no rules, and they wont write the rules until there are robots ready to compete. It is a lot of work to translate rules to english. It requires a person that knows the event so that the context can be translated correctly because there is no easy way to directly translate english to japanese.
Anyways, though this site is in Japanese, just follow the links around, expecially the competitors and their websites. You will find thousands of pictures of different types of humanoid robots. The Japanese and the Koreans are very innovative.
KHR-1 is a humanoid robot kit made by the servo manufacturer Ko Propo. When they saw that a lot of people were buying large quantities of servos for humanoid robots, they responded by make special servos for the robots, and they have at least two different robot kits. KHR-1 is the only one in the U.S. right now.
Hitec has seen the interest in this event and has developed the HSR-5995 servo for robots, and now have their own humanoid robot kit. See www.hitecrobotics.com
Futaba has introduced a robotics servo. I haven’t seen it yet, but I know they are jumping on the band wagon.
I’m working on a biped that will be ready for next year’s Robothon. (It was almost ready for this year.)
I’m more worried about damage from the Eagle event than from combat. It seems like there’s going to be a sudden stop at the end of the ride.
Unless there are a LOT of entries (unlikely for the first year or two) it seems like it would be best to let anyone enter or skip any event, and have the winner determined by total points or something like that.
I have been spending the whole day studying the rules and past scoring events, and it looks like robots can choose to enter any number of the events. The dash event is the most popular, and the Eagle is the second most popular. The eagle event has twice the scoring so I believe more robots enter it to get the higher points. The least popular appears to be the Door event.
The big challenge is to get robots to enter any of the events. I am going to work the rules and get them posted in the next couple weeks so people have a chance to develop their robot and build practice arenas.
But this is the easy part. Getting a robot to work and attempt any one of these events is going to be the challenging part. There is so much that needs to be learned just to make a robot work.
Hopefully we can all share our ideas and help one another if getting an army of humanoid robots built.
Thanks for the clarification Pete. I did see the Robonova from Hitec and saw a rather lengthy video that was a heck of a lot of fun to watch.
I have seen many videos of the KHR-1 and it seems to be very reasonable in price considering the number servos it comes with. Servos are the killer for most any biped bot project because of the high torqe needed to operate the legs.
I want to build the Linxmotion humanoid biped because of the simple design and tough looks.
The Lynxmotion design has one advantage over the KHR-1 and the Robonova, it is expandable.
Their servo brackets allow you to come up with all sorts of different robot body designs. With the same brackets I have two bipeds, one that looks like a humanoid, and another that looks like the Ed-209 robot from Robocop. Lots of flexibility here.
Hey Pete, can you provide a picture of the ED-209 type robot you built? I would love to see it if possible. Also, do you have any videos of your biped projects walking?
Hello. I’ve been following the forum for about a week now, and due to registering problems, I have not been able to post until now.
Anyhow, I was wondering what your opinions were on the two events that I have been looking at: Robogames (formerly RobOlympics) and Robothon.
At least on the surface, Robogames seems more well-funded.
Are both worth going to?
And, have you guys been able to find out exactly when they are each hosting their next RobotOne tournaments?
Oh, Pete, about creating your own tournament… as you can see above, I’m eager to join. The way I see it, robots are meant to entertain us, not sit there lookingpretty.
Truth be told… I don’t have a humanoid biped, yet. I’m currently working on a biped scout. But, as soon as Jim finishes the new waist rotation, I’ll be purchasing it.
Then again… with both the building and, much more dauntingly, the programming of a new robot ahead… it seems like worrying about competitions is counting my chickens before they hatch.
You are correct, RoboOlympics is well funded. Entry fees, and good sponsors. Robothon is only interested in covering expenses and is free to anyone that wants to come.
I personally have not been to a RoboOlympics event, but I have heard a lot of really good things about it. I have been to the Robothon event every year since it has been in the Seattle Center. It is a good event to go to, lots of good competitions.
I don’t know when the next RobOlympics event is, but the Robothon is planned to be September/October 2006 in the Seattle Center.
I am quite sure you will have a great time at either event.
I am still working on the rules translation, and will get them posted as soon as I can.
Can anyone post a link to some Robo One videos (especially the Wrestlig event)? I’ve only seen the events pictorally, and found both the text descriptions of them lacking.
Thanks.
