New project: the critter in the terrarium

the idea is simple

there is a terrarium (a box)

inside the terrrarium there is a critter which lives forever

the terrarium have a refuel station able to recharge critter batteries

1) when the critter is full of energy it lives:

roam the terrarium and interact with enviroment :respond to sounds, make sounds, blink lights according ecc

it's able to detect environment light level then respect a day/night behaviour cyle

2) when the critter is low battery it head to refuel station and acquire electrical lock with it

then stand still recharging batteryes till full energized, then back to life

p.s.

the battery will be a 3x 280mAh (check picture)

so the cpu will be picaxe

 

 

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP4ZTR4ZLjM

the great problem is

the great problem is Sensors!!

how to detect walls and be able to head for a precise spot to regharge

IR? mechanical feelers?

it’s a mess

whiskers?
you could use piano wire on the sides. to return to the station it can hit a wall and go "left" until it gets there

i was thinking to a IR

i was thinking to a IR beacon on the recharge station

in the picture i draw 2 electrical pins for connection… but i think it is impossibile a o precise positioning

so bot and recharger have to couple using wide metalized area… one could be the floor…

this s the web page which

this s the web page which gave me the inspiration

http://www.xs4all.nl/~sbolt/edz.htm

Aimed sensors and mechanical shoehorning

There was a robot dog named I-Cybie that had a central chest IR sensor that would look for the IR signal from it’s charging station. THe IR LEDs on the charging station were somewhat directional, and the dog would periodically stop in approach, to see if it was still lined up on the charger from several feet away. Once within a 4-6" or so, the charger was shaped in such a way that the dog was guided into the 2 contacts on the charger at lower chest level. Worked pretty good, from what I heard.THe I-Cybie sensor was a simple modulated IR detector like a PNA4602. The charger IR LEDs were just small T1’s I think, with shielding to further narrow their beam.

Some Roombas also recharge, and I haven’t researched it, but also believe it’s IR to get near, then mechanical for the last bit to contact. Roombas have ther special omni-directional IR sensor, so not quite sure how that helps guide them in.

Just found aquick video of a Roomba seeking it’s charger.

Actually it can be

Actually it can be done…check out the image(done in paint so not that great…)

ir_beacon_charger_point2.jpg

yeah great draw!it help me

yeah great draw!

it help me to figure a possible solution

the problem is that it have to bouce the walls when in hi-batt mode… so other sensors are needed to detect walls

the idea could be to use feelers

anyway a all-IR solution could be more elegant

It’s a bit farfetched but
You can get those wireless charging mats for things like phones and cameras, it might be a bit expensive but it would make it simpler than docking if it were possible. Just had a look, they sell some wireless power stuff here.

Wireless Charging

I was looking at your critter project and I may have a cheap wireless charger for the bot. It is an electric toothbrush charger. Wireless charging of (2)-NiCad batteries, and may charge (3) as the output voltage was not listed. Usually takes 3-4 hours to re-charge. Use the IR beacon to guide the bot to the "peg" on the charger and then the peg will take over the last 10mm. I remember paying about $15 USD for the toothbrush.

WirelessCharger01.jpg

"Peg" on charger. About 12mm tall.

-Gary

yeah i think that a

yeah i think that a modulated IR is the best way to acquire a strong and directional beacon…

and metalized feelers could be used to estabilish electrical contact with recharging plates AND bounce wall when it’s exploring the terrarium

or… i thought of

or…

Immagine.jpg

i thought of something like this. The docking station has two metal plates (the grey ones, one at the top and at the bottom). The bot has two metal thingys that come in contact with them (check the blue "contact" arrows). The one touching the top could be something like an antenna, like the ones you see on bumper cars. For the bottom you could use something like a caster, and connect it to gnd.

ummm thankyou allyou posted

ummm thankyou all

you posted many ideas

the Tuna idea have the advantage to allow very easy docking because do not require precise allignament AND leave the front of the robot free for other sensors (feelers)

 

on the other side voodoobot/gareth idea is more elegant because the robot have to manouver aproaching the plug…

 

Hey, I wanted to suggest this site!

I were about to link that (Dutch) site to you. It inspired me to this. Guess I am too late. So how’s about this one for artistic inspiration?

The Robotarium by Leonel Moura. Warning: Artsy Content! Video.

** 2 feelers able to detect**



 

2 feelers able to detect walls and receive current through terrarium plates

LEFT FEELER is easy to understand
When left f. is free IN_L (digital in) is HI
When left f. is pressed on a wall IN_L (digital in) LOW
When left f. is in contact with negative Plate it join Outher and Inner GND

 

RIGHT FEELER
When right f. is free ADC_R is 0v
When right f. is pressed on a wall ADC_R is 1/3 Vcc
When right f. is in contact with positive plate ADC_R is >1/2 Vcc (docking detected) and it joins charging plate with battery

 

 

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With diode bridge it

With diode bridge it wouldn’t matter which way you contact.

 

But how do you charge battery? Constant and low current?

 

And you mentioned ~280mAh batteryes.If you use NIMH or NICd you will get like maximum 20ma from them. Is this enough for motors AND electronics?

diode bridge is not needed

diode bridge is not needed because the bot can not flip on its back :slight_smile:

 

i will charge battery with costant current = 1/10 C

 

 

I do not understand your last sentence…

are you saying that maximum discharge current of a 280 mAh cell is 20ma???

you are confusing with
you are confusing with recomended charge current :slight_smile:

are you a softair soldier

are you a softair soldier too? :slight_smile:

I played softair years ago in a good team…