CRAZY Motors

By god, sorry but I just came across these motors!!! :

Link

4515oz.in (325.12 Kg-cm) torque, all metal planetary gears, 300 RPM… What is this MONSTER??? :laughing:

You put only two motors on a huge robot and it can cary it all…

What do you guys think the scam is… It can’t be that cheap and tha performant… can it? or is it just my dream :smiley:

Let’s say it would actualy work at the power they said, imagine doing like Jim had in mind to create a motor form half servo half planetary gear-head.

Anyway… what do you think? 8)

Its a beefy motor. Its been on robotshop.ca for quite a while. That price is pretty good since you would only need two. I need four of the LM gearhead motors (which are half the cost) but end up being the same cause I need twice as many, where as you only need two of those for the same cost and you have gobs of torque more.

58.00 isn’t THAT cheap anyway :wink:

But consider the power, 20 times more powerfull than the lynxmotion GM motors… 20!

and ten times more powerfull than the most powerfull lynxmotion planetary gear motor (that has 14 RPM instead of 300)

But… I think I found the glitch… I guess you can fix it by putting a 20 Amp resistor before that it goes on youre motor controller because the peak current is 42 Amps! :astonished:

Look at the specs again - stall current is 85 amps.

I have a couple of the smaller RS-540 based motors, with 36:1 gearboxes and an encoder added:

banebots.com/pc/MP-36XXX-540/MP-36036-540

That motor has a 42 amp stall current, and 1421 oz-in of torque.

These are much larger (physically) than any of the motors Lynxmotion sells, so its not surprising they have more torque. But I also bought a Sabertooth 2x25 motor driver to control it (peaks at 50 amps).

  • Jon

mmm, that is still a lot of torque, let’s say I would want to mix it with a servo and create a kinda Superservo (like in the tutorial)… :smiling_imp: This could be incredibile! (I would like maybe to put it on humanoid arms (the robot would be 1.50 metres and have a wheeled base). Can taht kind of servo hold positions? Is that posible or am I way to far daydreeming?

Thank you!

You can mount the 700 can motors onto the 42mm BaneBot gearboxes as well. The 700 sized motors have twice the power of the 550. Which makes for a very powerful motor.

The real way to do this is to use the motor to drive a linear actuator. Then you don’t have to worry about holding torque. If you convert the linear actuator into a series elastic actuator, you can even make it compliant so you can move it around.

  • Jon

Ok, I understand how I could convert it into linear actuators, but what is a series of elastic actuators?

It basically converts the captive nut into a sprung carriage, with a linear pot to measure the deflection of the carriage.

Here’s a technical diagram:

yobotics.com/actuators/specifications/MarketingDrawing23-23.pdf

  • Jon

This is an apples to oranges comparison. :unamused:

There is alot more that goes into the value of a motor than the final torque…

Good luck finding a suitable servo amp with 85 amp output dude… :unamused:

:laughing: yeah… Wasn’t planning on it! It’s not possible (anyway for what I want ot do) to use 85 amps :open_mouth:

Possibly a strong gearhead motor for only $44 with the current coupon. Been thinking of ways to turn something like this into a strong servo.

harborfreightusa.com/usa/ite … emid=92860

Aren’t these a bit too slow to actually use it as a servo?

And I’d think they can pull some whopping peak currents too :wink:

Yeah, I’d probably get the same trouble than the other one. :angry: Too bad.
But the 2000 pounds is quite interesting!

A 2000 lb winch can probably pull several hundred amps of current. I wouldn’t be surprised if the peak current draw is closer to 1000 amps.

I can’t imagine what you would use that for, other than a winch…

Unless you’re building a really big robot, and then you’re much better off switching to hydraulics.

  • Jon

1000 amps? you would need cables the diameter of radiator hoses! :laughing:

really it just depends upon what level of temperature rise your design finds acceptable. :wink:

I did a little research, and a 2000 lb. winch probably stalls at near 100-150 amps. So probably not as bad as I thought.

I guess I’m just used to thinking of winches for Jeeps, which are 9000-12000 lbs… (huv.com/jon/jeep)

  • Jon

I guess you meen a 2000 lbs winch stalls near 100-150 amps?

Anyway, I would defenitly go to hydrolics if I want to build a robot that big :laughing: But this is real interesting!