Community Hexapod Project

LOL. I’m funding and fabricating it. I wanted the community,read anyone who wants to, to get involved and help with design ideas, choices, software and all around input. I just wanted to build a smaller hex and thought it would be more fun if we did it as a group.

After it’s done, I’ll be posting it up on our website and giving credit to everyone who helped out and participated.

It’s $200 to join the club, I accept paypal.
LOL Just kidding.

I’m slowly getting some stuff done. Just wanted to run this by you guys.
As far as the face tracking head, running Roborealm to an ssc-32 will also require a wireless camera and having a computer present. So instead, what about using something like the POB camera or the CMUCam?

I was eyeballing this version:
robotshop.ca/home/suppliers/ … ision.html
Higher resolution than #1 and a little cheaper than #3. Can this thing really control pan/tilt servos to face/color track with me having to program anything? I understand software comes with it to set it up but can this run iindependant of a computer? I had a #1 but sold it for another camera system.

Maybe we could use this for the head tracking control?

Looks interesting.

EDIT: After reading the manual, I see now that we need a micro or stamp processor to relay the signals. The pan/tilt does seem to be controlled off the board though. I wonder if this system is compatible with the ABB?

An on board computer would be nice because more power is always better, I think a wireless link would be the best. Considering the hex will probably always be within range of WiFi.

Yeah, I thought the CMU cams were good for color segmentation and tracking only.

If you really want face tracking, you are going to need a real computer and camera for that. Its very doable, just a little out of reach of a micro processor.

(maybe we could look at those 200/500MHz arm systems that run embedded linux distros? Or do like the pico itx johnny five :slight_smile:)

I think for whichever robot I make my first, it will be wirelessly controlled (probably zigby, but I am not firm on anything). My computer already exists and the wireless link is cheaper then buying an embedded computer :wink:

Actually, that being said, evolution, which wireless camera systems would you recommend for getting video off a bot?

A mobile pico-itx setup costs about $500 to implement, just fyi.

Ok, thanks for the info guys.

I gotta run but here are a couple of quick pics of what I got so far:

Body. The center to center pivot point dimensions are identical to the lynx inline hex. It has mounts for the arms in the front and a pan/tilt head.

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q253/gfisher2002/robots/Scorpionbody001.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q253/gfisher2002/robots/Scorpionbody002.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q253/gfisher2002/robots/Scorpionbody003.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q253/gfisher2002/robots/Scorpionbody004.jpg

Now I tried a couple arm designs.

This is a close to anatomically correct version that used the same measurements and horizontal/vertical lines as the lynx inline hex, for ease of programming.
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q253/gfisher2002/robots/Scorpionbody006.jpg

This is the same pieces, but I thought they looked kind of neat arcing outward, although not anatomically correct.
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q253/gfisher2002/robots/Scorpionbody005.jpg

What do you guys think? Which would look better without skin?

I have always liked the bots with legs that arc out! So the second leg picture has my vote :smiley:

What material is that? And will the legs like that support the weight of the bot? (I ask, because I recall in the Phoenix thread that Jim’s prototype from lexan wasn’t walkable (IIRC) )

I believe thats delrin plastic. 8)

I’ve not seen textured delrin… methinks it’s sintra. :confused:

Really? Isn’t that stuff the same type of plastic Zenta used for his hex? I thought that was called Delrin? :blush:

Looks good evo!

I like the leg with the arch too.

Very, very good…

I think the 2nd one is better, as it looks more realistic. the first one would be better if we were modeling an ant though

Thanks guys. I think I like the outward arc as well. I’ll redo them to better compliment an outward arch. Like get the servo on the inside of the Tibia.

I’ll post some pics tomorrow.

And it’s 3/16th High Density Poly. Even the slim leg pieces can barely be bent by hand. They will definitely hold up. No doubt.

Hi!
Interesting project you got there! Yes, the plastic will definitely hold :wink: Creative and realistic design of femur and tibia parts. Maybe the tars part on the tibia can be replaced by a switch or sensor function later if you want to implement ground detection?

(So you don’t want a extra pair of legs? If you are interested I could send you a 8 leg version of PEP where I have a real life scorpion walking gait.) :wink:

LOL I would love to but I should figure out how to use the 6 legged version first.

I am shooting for it to be as fluid and realistic as your Phoenix hex. Your videos are incredible. And foot sensors would be really cool. Just implementing them in the software would be difficult for me. I’m not real great with programming so there will be some serious spoon-feeding going on later when you guys hold my hand through some of the basics. :slight_smile:

:laughing: Yeah, I feal there is a great lack of programing knoledge in the robotics comunities, a lot of robots lose in competitions because of it.

Anyway, if you need help I’ll do my best to help you out :wink:

Thanks, I’ll need it. If zenta can bless us with some help using his PEP program with the sequencer, maybe we can have the sexy smooth gaits that he had. :slight_smile:

Hi, I promise to work more on the PEP manual part soon. :wink: For your scorpion I would recommend the ripple gait. In summary, the real-life scorpion utilizes alternating tetrapods, which function somewhat like a cross between the hexapod tripod and ripple/wave gaits.

I couldn’t agree more. I love the ripple gait.

Well the lathe sold for the $400 I was asking so…What should we buy for the scorpion?? :slight_smile:
I was just selling it to free up some cash for this project. So far we have about $752 in servo and brackets.
So what should we buy? I have to pick up some more servos with my next Robotshop order on Monday. Some for the tail, arms and head. AS well as brackets. What else should we get?

I might not have enough RTV Silicone resin here to mold the entire body cover so I’ll have to order some of that as well.

I personally like dragon skin silicone for molding parts, it feels like real skin, ewwww…