Cant upload firmware?

I had to rebuild a custom Vtail Ive been making and now I need to change the frame size in the firmware and generally tweak things.

The Flash Firmware part of the Firmware Config tool compiles the new firmware fine but it never does anything in the “Transfer to Quadrino” box. The text at the top just sits on “Uploading Firmware to the quadrino”. Frustrating as no user error feedback at all!

The WinGUI config tool can connect, though oddly only if the RC controller is connected, which I dont remembver being a problem before. What can I do to flash the firmware or even see some error messages!?

Hi kodachrome,

First thing to do would be to look at the COM port selected in the FCT and make sure it’s the right one.
Than if it still not working, can you check the Device Manager to see if the drivers are installed correctly ? (if you didn’t change PC they should be still installed)

There should not have any link between the WinGUI connection and the RC receiver unless you are powering the receiver from an external source.

Let us know,

Sorry should have mentioned the Comm port is correct and I’ve tried both the standard plus the FDDI and SILabs drivers (which are both recommended in different places as the correct driver!). Is there any way of seeing an error log for the firmware flashing tool?

On the WinGUI not connecting part, this was what threw me as originally it wouldnt connect (it would try, freeze for 30sec then give me an error about checking if correct Comms used), so I assumed I had some hardware problem with the Nano. By chance I started up the RC controller (not receiver btw, the actual controller, “transmitter”) and it connected right up. If I power off the RC Controller then WinGui just stops working again?

I’m kinda worried the firmware on the nano as got corrupted (as its not really behaving correct, eg Arming and disarming, spinning motors not consistantly working in WinGUI). Is there a hardware reset, low level firmware flash procedure?

Had a thought that I should check the voltage coming out of my voltage converter module (my ESCs dont have a BEC) and found it was 6.1v. Prob got its adjustment screw tweaked in the rebuild. I put it at 5.5v (with no load) and powered on my laptop (which incidentally just updated to a new Win10 build) and now both WinGUI and Firmware Updater both worked perfectly! I updated the FW and confirmed the new values are readable in WinGUI.

Success! Now back to building and later PID tweaking (I have no idea how to do this! :slight_smile: )

Is there an accepted Voltage range for input on the ESC (not VIN) input?

Good news
About the voltage input, can you give us more detail about the way you powered the Quadrino Nano ? (from where)

We will have a look at the maximum voltage (or range).

Just one question from us, where did you see a FTDI recommended driver exactly ?

Sure. I’m powering the Nano from a little voltage reg PCB, it takes the high voltage (upto 30v input) and outputs 3-11v (configurable via a dial). I wired it off the main PDB.

On where I seen the FTDI driver recommended:
flyingeinstein.com/index.php/tu … sb-drivers

Though TBH it is listed under the Windows XP section with the other Windows versions listed to “use the default driver” I was concerned Windows had just swapped the driver as part of the Windows 10 Insider program to some newer version that may cause problems. The only “listed driver” is the FTDI (which supports Xp to 10), though the Firmware updater tool itself mentions the SILabs driver.

The original Quadrino Zoom was running a FTDI serial chip but the Quadrino Nano use a Silabs.

After some verifications with the team, you should never power it from anything higher than 5v unless you will damage the board.

Cool. I put it at 5.5v now as I was concerned about voltage sag.
The Flying Einstein Nano user guide mentions that VIN (the other power input) is regulated, what are the specs of that regulation? It seems i could have used that and not bothered with the Voltage Step down module.
flyingeinstein.com/index.php/tu … ing-wiring

There are not tutorial about the Quadrino Nano on Flyingeinstein website, this is about the Quadrino original.
The Nano do not have a regulated 5V for either the VIN or powering via the ESC cable.

Lol I see. You know if you goto flyingeinstein.com/ the site is all “Quadrino Nano” stuff, then you click on Tutorials (or just scroll down!) and assume of course its about the same product (as it does say Quadrino which you would think is the same). As someone not familiar with prior products… this is pretty confusing!

We agree on that, the Flyingeinstein is not maintained at the moment. Most of the informations there can and will be took out for new tutorials.
There are many original Quadrino user which use those pages as well.