Adaptive bike shifting project question

Hi there,

I’m very new to this world and just looking for direction in a project I’m working on. I’m trying to develop a way to electronically shift and internal rohloff hub for an off road handcycle. These bikes are developed for paraplegics and quadriplegics to be able to ride using their arms. Quadriplegic, like myself have limited dexterity so it’s really hard for me to use traditional shifters. We have found an internal hub made by Rohloff that works great on these bikes but we need a better way to shift it than the supplied grip shifter.

What I think I need is a stepper motor that can do 14 individually space shifts. its 360 total degrees with 14 different positions at 5 ft lbs of torque needed. We will 3-D print a way for it to fit on the hub but the tricky thing is that we know nothing about it how to develop a control unit to power the stepper motor. Additionally, it would be ideal if we could make it wireless but we need to integrate some sort of up and down shift button. We are looking for someone who could help us figure this solution. I wasn’t sure where to look so I thought I would start here.

I have videos and pictures to do a better job of explaining but I figured I would start with this.

Thanks for any help or directing me to who I could hire to help with this project.

Ultimately, it will get more people with limited hand function out biking on trails again.

Thanks,
-K

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@KFWBiker Welcome to the RobotShop Community. That does sound like more of an integration / project question as opposed to one with a single solution. It sounds like you might be looking for a designer? Consider that universities are starting back, and end of year engineering students have “CAPSTONE” classes, where they work on a single project for either one or two semesters. If you are able to submit your project, you might be able to get some engineering students to help (sometimes the course asks for a fee, but you need to check details). Also, don’t be shy to try to reach out to Rohloff directly as their engineering team may be looking into that option currently and appreciate your application.

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I would love to help with this. I’m nowhere near an EE or ME, or even a roboticist, but I love a challenge and this is right up my alley! I’m disabled myself and I’ve looked at many aids for the disabled and thought “there’s got to be a better way.” This sounds like an achievable goal.

I agree with @cbenson. You are looking at a number of different possible solutions, especially if you intend to retain the grip shifter in a functional form. Could you message me with more info? I can help you consider what solution(s) might work best for your needs and possibly adapt to a few different control schemes to account for variances in fine muscle control, strength, mono- and/or bilateral arrangement, tremor, convenience, preference, etc.

I look forward to hearing from you and I hope I can help you reach your goal(s)!

Dan

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I did a bit of research into the Rohloff SpeedHub and a few different gear shifting solutions that are already on the market. The SpeedHub looks like a fantastic internal gear drive! I want one just to play with and look at!! Classic German precision engineering! Despite its internal complexity, the gear indexing is accomplished with a simple mechanical pull-pull cable system. It’s a tried-and-true 1:1 mechanical linkage0

There are a few different possibilities that would appear to be most likely candidates, depending on the availability of commercial off-the-shelf (COTS) parts. The SpeedHub makes use of a mechanically simple pull-pull cable system. It should be possible to basically do away with the shiftgrip and integrate a linear actuator to work the cables. In fact, this application all but cries out for a liner actuator!

The reasoning behind using a linear actuator, rather than any rotary system, is the pull-pull cable system. If you attach each cable to the end of a linear actuator from opposite directions, you replicate the pull-pull motion that the SpeedHub is expecting by replacing the user’s hand rotation. If memory serves, each shift would require the actuator to move 7.2mm. That’s easily accomplished with a control board and coding. Also, it’s much easier to achieve the forces required in a linear actuator, since it has a built in reduction gear and produces enormous linear force from the screw drive system. The trade off is likely to be weight, but that’s just a guess, and probably not a big issue to begin with.

With that design in mind, I would be looking at the following components for a functional system.

Power:
LiPo battery pack. Size, configuration, and capacity, are all fairly negotiable, but the voltage will be based on the needs of the actuator.

Drive:
1 x linear actuator
1 x motor controller for linear actuator
1 x custom bracket to attach the actuator and the SpeedHub control cables to a fixed point on the bike frame.
1 x custom bracket to attach the cable ends to the moving end of the actuator.

Control:
1 x pretty much any Arduino or similar embedded module on a chip or board would do the trick. This could actually be tiny and physically be put anywhere in the overall solution.
1 x set of control buttons, switches, lever(s), or other form of rider input that fits the user’s abilities and desires.
1 x housing/mount for the user controls

Misc:
Wires, connectors, and similar

Now, having said all of that, this is sort of reinventing the wheel. There are already a few electronic shift systems out there that are available now. In particular, the two units from ProShift Racing look especially appealing. They automatically shift to keep you in your cadence and are especially nice when bottoming out in a valley. One handicyclist says it’s keeping him from rowing up the next rise because he/she no longer has to both drive the bike forward and shift down into the lower gears before his/her momentum is lost. Cost is $600-900, depending on which model, shipping, and install. There are a few other systems out there, as well.

Hope all of this has helped! Please don’t hesitate to ask further questions or contact me directly for info and/or additional research and/or advice.

Be safe and well!
Dan

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Dan, wow man! Thank you so much doing all of this! I’m sorry it’s taking me a bit to get back to you. I’ve been out of town.

That’s great that you’re interested in helping out on this! Much appreciated. I like all you’ve said except am still trying to wrap my head around linear actuator working as a cable pool. The cables are pulled in opposite directions so I would imagine it would need two linear actuators? Additionally, the cable pull is pretty long. Regardless, it seems like you have a good understanding of what we need to do. The other and possibly more tricky part is making the whole system wireless if possible. We have to connect the shifter buttons to the crank arms where your hands go and adding wires in order to shift everything can be problematic. Wires get tangled, etc.

Do you have any experience creating the control board to drive the linear actuators or stepper motor? That seems to be the most technical part that I don’t understand.

I’ll send you a message with videos showing everything and we can go from there. Might actually be easier to jump on a Zoom call or whatever to discuss.

Much appreciated for your replies!
-Kirk

Thank you so much! That’s a great idea! I’ve had universities help me with other projects in the past. A great resource.

Cheers,
-Kirk