Wheel Slippage on Make:it Robotic gear kit

Hello All,

I am working on my first robot, I have dubbed him (Ralph)red, he is to eventually be part butler part dog. However I have run into a issue. I have a tire that slips when on the floor. It doesn't always do it, but sometimes it just spins. The kit I got the motors from is here. (Radio Shack closeout) I am using the lowest geared motors for the time being. He has managed to drive over extension chords and transfer from Linolum over a protective strip to carpet. He is upside down in the pic below, I was attaching the sensor brackets. Right over the motors in the center he has a motor controller, A little further back arduino mega, and just behind that (Touching on their edges) is a small bread board. Over the "Drivers side" tire is a 4 AA battery pack (for the motors), and the "Passenger side" there are three 18650 battery's with a buck converter. There is a ball caster on the back. So my question is, do I need more weight up by the motors? I could add some... I built the chassis from a erector set and there is a small tray there.

EDIT: Thought I should add it's usually the passenger wheel (Under the 18650s)

Thanks for all the help

Earth Guardian

First Pic (As I said it was upside down)

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Top Down

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Side Shot

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Motors and wheels

I assume you are doing a Mr Scotty "Giving it all she’s got Captain!"

Try to ramp up to the speed you want. do the speed setting in 25% increments.  See if this helps any.  You could try and redistribute the weight as you stated. For a quick test to could do two motor writes, one at half the speed you want then delay for say half a second and then a write to the motor the full power you want.

I will say, that these motors and wheels are nice and cheap, but are not perfect.  They do get your bot going though.

 

 

If the robot weights more

If the robot weights more then 2 kg the motors may be strained or stall on small obstacles. If the wheels slip add some rubber bands and make sure the wheight center is near the wheels.

Also, I guess you need to define "slip"

Is the whole wheel slipping (wheel and tire) just the wheel (the hub part) or the rubber?  Or is the gear motor slipping.  Sorry for all the questions.

Definition of slips

I apologize. By slipping I mean that the tire isn’t getting any traction, wheel spins but acts like it isn’t touching the floor. It crawls at a nice pace with the 220:1 gears, including over extension chords with ease. (in house that will probably be it’s largest obstacle). I will look at the motor link in a bit, I am using my phone at the moment.

Frame and Temperature?

Ok, so at the suggestion of my friend I checked the height of the board to the frame… and all the bolts I thought I had at the same height… one of them was a quarter inch off. Readjusted using a ruler and no more wheel lift. Hooray!

I am looking at cutting down the board some this weekend to reduce weight. I am also debating moving the batteries to the tray the motors are mounted to… If I can sourace a descent DPST (Or DPDT) Micro switch.

I also checked the little motors for heat (As best I could with the gear box there). It looks like they are running about 4-5F warmer than room temperature. Is that about normal?

Thanks again for all the help!

Earth Guardian

I wouldn’t think that a 5
I wouldn’t think that a 5 degree above room temp is bad. I’m just surprised that they work at all, pushing that mass!

I now have a bunch of motors, including about four sets of the yellow motors. I also like the Dagu encoders that work with these motors. I have to find or find a good way to make quadrature encoders.

Thanks

Thanks for the input. I think the 1:220 gearing helps, they say that is 2kg/cm.