SSC-NG images

You certainly are the bold one! :smiley: I’m glad I am not the only one who wants I2C. :slight_smile: There are 8 channel ADC chips available, but the only ones I have found use SPI (Microchip MCP3208 and others). I like the way Acroname does their I2C connections - dual row connector (in and out) for daisy chaining to/from other I2C devices.

That’s just for 8 legs with 3DOF. I could use all 32 channels of an SSC-32 if I were to build an octapod. I am sure others could also. :slight_smile:

Analog Input shortage is definately an issue, especially for things like accelerometers and Sharp IR rangers. Even 8 is really not enough.

How about addon modules, like via I2C? I am in the process of programming some dsPICs (30F4011 and 30F4012) to do just that - be smart I/O processing modules.

8-Dale

This would be an excellent way to go. If we can also create our own add-on boards, either by breadboarding or making custom PCBs, it would be excellent. :slight_smile:

8-Dale

Personally, I prefer the layout and configuration miked has now. Add to that the ability to add on expansion boards for additional I/O, etc, and I think that is the way to go. Of course, you could still bump the number of channels up to 32 to make it more of a servo controller. That is mostly just a matter of what firmware is programmed into the MCU.

8-Dale

Jim, if you do go the daughter board route, make sure you publish the interface so that we can make our own add on boards! (Maybe the servo connectors should be right angle types then?)

I imagine something like a PC104 stack in our future robots :stuck_out_tongue: (And actually, the Mark III robots have a good stacking system as well)
LinuxGuy: Look at the Max127 for an 8 channel I2C.

I agree with you about the attractive of ARM boards :slight_smile:

Will it be easy or possible to get a fast connection between SSC-NG to gumstix/qwerk/Hammer or similar boards?

I suggest that a jumper be put between the normal 5v supply and the analog voltage reference pin on the chip. This way the jumper could be removed and any voltage between 5v and 0v could be connected to the chip such that eight bit resolution for that voltage range could be obtained. As for many analog inputs, I’m tinkering with some CD4051 chips (below) to see how easy one could make an add on board to get 16 switchable analog inputs to the ssc-32. The 74HC4051 chips are $.36 each from Jameco, so the overall expense should be very low for DIY boards.

http://www.geocities.com/zoomkat/pix/analog2.jpg

Time for an update. Mike is starting to work on the SSC-NG board again. What’s in there?

o ATMega1281 Processor
128k Flash
4kb EEProm
8kb RAM
54 GP I/O pins
6 PWM channels
2 USART
8 ADC channels
o USB / TTL comms supported.
o 32 channels of I/O direct to the bus. All can be servos.
o 1 dedicated I2C bus.
o 1 dedicated 1mbps half duplex serial bus. (AX-12)
o Same footprint as SSC-32 / Bot Board II.
o Larger terminal blocks for power.
o VL/VS jumpers on banks of 8 I/O.
o Analog reference voltage brought to jumper.
o Some small LED’s on board for troubleshooting.

Cool!

The new SSC will support the AX-12 servos? and taking care of S-curve calculations too?

Does the fab look the same as the last images posted or has things moved around?

It’s losing: the DB9, RS-232 level shifter, push buttons.

it’s getting: more I/O, USB, I2C and 1mbps com port. whatever we can cram on it. 8)

Keep us updated - this sounds great!

Will the Sequencer work with it?

It sounds pretty interesting for ā€œBioloidersā€. Specially to be able to add other sensors besides the AX-S1 :slight_smile:

What will be the USB chip on the new board, and will it appear as a virtual com port, or will it require DLL/OCX type of programming?

The goal is to integrate the AX-12’s operation into the SSC-32/NG’s command set to work with standard servos with the coordinated moves system, and with any program that can talk to the SSC-32. Big goal, but that’s where it is.

I added this:
The SSC-NG will be able to function as an enhanced SSC-32, or with C programming it can be made into a complete robot controller.

We’re using the FTDI chip. It’s got everything required built-in to the chip. The setup has more options than the Prolific chip. I believe it will be configured as a virtual serial port, but it will have unique addresses so more than one can be connected to a PC at the same time.

This all sounds great!

Kurt

Mike is now considering the ATmega1280. The differences are.

  • 16 A/D versus 8
  • 4 serial ports versus 2
  • 12 timers versus 6
  • Many additional I/O, not needed for functionality, but makes HW and SW designer’s job easier

The benefits are.

  • More A/D = requested function from the people
  • More serial ports = greater communication potential; can support USB, TTL, and AX-12 simultaneously; no jumpers to select between USB and TTL comms
  • More timers = more high-precision time-based I/O; useful for high-speed PWM outputs, PWM measurement, optical encoders, etc.
  • More general I/O = easier routing for HW guy; easier coding for the SW guy (can use 1 8-bit I/O port per servo bank instead of mixing and matching); possibility of connecting multiple processor pins to a
    single board pin for greater flexibility.

I’m in, but we will have to see what will fit. 8)

Jim
Will each of the ssc-NG 16 a/d inputs have its own ± power or will 2 analog inputs be paired with 1 ± power as we have with the current ssc32

I am really looking forward to this new ssc-ng.
Thanks
Wayne

No it will be more like the Bot Board II’s analog inputs. They are just like the servo outputs as far as ground power and signal goes.

Jim or Mike

Any rough guess when the new sscNG will be ready for market.

Thanks
Wayne