How to make your own Polymorph - cheap!

Update! Aparently there is a huge difference in the glue-sticks. Take that into consideration regarding everything in this post.

However, I had some of the "bad kind" as well, and did some resaerch: if your glue sticks are not the kind that I have used for the main picture, perhaps you still may have interest in making "shapes" the way demonstrated on these pictures:

 

Here follows original posting, but I may have been to fast announcing this, not all glues sticks will apply.


Want "Polymorph", or "Shapelock" - that Uh, so expensive and hard to get materials?

Well, here is the news; It it is the same stuff that melt-gluegun-glue sticks are made of!

Yes, it's true. Get some sticks, boil them (erh - do not boil them, they get sticky - keep them below 62 celsius, but get them there.. make sure they are all heated through.. take the spaghetti up, mold it, cool it down.. bingo!

See this thread for more, this is fantastic, I am going to be molding now!

 

OK - have doe some more testing :)

Strange - different companies glue sticks behave differently; Some will melt again, and some gets sort of tough and hard for ever once melted. If you mic them, you will get hard pieces inside nice mody stuff - so don't

 

Hot water out of my tap at home has perfect temperature!

Full manual on this on the PDF here!

Holy moldy! This is really fantastic, I always wanted to try this material, and I always used melt glue.. and now I understand it is the same :D Only the melt-to 62 degress in water-trick does the difference!

A better idea

They melt a lot quicker if you put them through a blender first. Don’t use the household blender. Buy one for the garage. I have one which stays with my garage clothes iron, my garage kettle, my garage microwave oven, my garage food mixer and my garage washing machine.

Anyway. The bloken up granules melt more quickly. Be careful when squeezing the boiling water out of them.

I find the finished result is more flexable than the branded polymorph.

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Hmmm…
Actually, I’m off to mix some with some polymorph to see what happens.

So with some glue sticks we

So with some glue sticks we can fabricate plastic components to build robots… OMG if this is true I HAVE to try it. Imagine what great things we can make if we can fabricate the plastic components our selves…

Looking forward to some vids & pics concerning the testing!

Nice work!

 

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My hotmelt glue - Not good

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Hmmm. My results with hotmelt glue weren’t good. Sure the stuff gets flexible and sticky in 80 degreeC water (first photo), but it cools REALLY quickly - I couldn’t even get chopped up bits of it to stick back together once removed from the hot water (second photo).

When I pulled it, it sort of “snapped” rather than stretching and after it cooled down, the result was kind of rubbery and not very usable.

My experience mirrored

My experience mirrored BOA’s. The glue stick chops (like in picture 2) stuck together, but it became a rubber rather than the playdough I expected…

Aaargh, I’ve spent the day dreaming about the new anckle joint I was gonna fabricate tonight, and now the dreams are shattered.

/maneuver starts looking for that bottle of brandy

 

/ vzz-clck-“Maneuver”

THere are different brands

THere are different brands in the glue sticks!

I have some that works lik that as well.

However - I have some that works.

Will get back, must research some more…

I you disolve styrofome in
I you disolve styrofome in gas or acetone and let it dry it works just as well and you have the advantage of being able to set it on fire witch is quite fun.

Must try this
Acetone’s kind of hard to get. What type of gas did you use? Butane? Methane? I have some toluene. I wonder if that would work.

Huh? Styrofoam melted in
Huh? Styrofoam melted in acetone, let it dry and you get… what?

by gas i meen petrol, lead

by gas i meen petrol, lead free, it is incredible how much styrofome (the normal stuff, dont know if packing penuts would work) you can disolve in a very small amount of petrol !!!

O and keep a fire extigusher or buket of water next to you if you decide to light it

**you get plastic like stuff **

you get plastic like stuff

 

… But what you get is
… But what you get is called styrene. And that is not Polycaprolactone ("Shapelock" / "Polymorph" etc)?

dont know what it is called
dont know what it is called but onece it drys it is solid plasic

But can it be molded in any

But can it be molded in any way?

PS: I just knew the names because I looked it up :smiley:

yea i think so, if you let

yea i think so, if you let it dry a bit

I have very little experience using it ass moldable plastic, I only discovered it when some of the leftover stuff hardened.

I am almost certain that it will work

I have two recipe’s for make

I have two recipe’s for make your own plastics, both require 2 ingredients.

1 styrofoam melted in acetone or gas

2 milk boiled with vineger.

I havent tried either one yet but both say they are moldable and the milk one says it don’t stink either.

I cant vouch for them yet but I believe if the styrofoam one can be poured into a mold and let harden it is probably the winner in my book.

the vineger/milk one in the instructable looked like cheese kurd so it probably be better hand formed like playdoe

1 there is also two other idea’s I have using “bakey Clay” .

2 I want to try shredding a plastic frisby to see if it will melt uniformly into a pourable solution

I know alot of other folks use poly morph in their products too but how would you identify it on sight?

that is a good question for everybody…

if you could then you could just feed it to a blender and remelt it in a microwave.

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thermoset plastics DIY info

here is what I found online, maybe we can find a suitable material for a do it yourself method. I think recycling is an awesome idea myself, this post explains alot and tells a bit about possible materials too. Now I know this is a bit much info but if we could use say old drink bottles to mold robot parts for your self or to sale it seems profitable I mean polymorph is $15 per ounce old drink bottles are free. That is a good markup for any business man and it lightens the load on our landfills and planet too. And I am sure not all info is here either so it will need some trial and error to.

colaboration anyone we can each try a few different matterials!

 

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