I became a member of Let's Make Robots a couple days ago. That didn't last long. I had been told what a helpful and friendly site this is. That isn't the impression I got. I replied to a post that I felt was giving bad advice. I won't link to it. It is easy enough to find if you like.I asked the poster, who is apparently a fourteen year old, to clarify their answer because I was afraid someone might damage their equipment following that advice. the repsonse to that was basically that it was only a nine dollar board so who cared if they blew it up. My response was that the reply was not helpful and was unfriendly. Up to now, no one else had said anything. Then the firestorm started. Immediately after quoting the part I felt made it unfriendly, I was baited in to the shout box. Fool that I am, I took the bait. I will post a transcript of that below. I won't apologize because I don't feel I did anything wrong. I would rather not apologize than to make a non-sincere apology. I am sure many will disagree. You are entitled to your opinion. Feel free to trash me in the comments. You won't be the first.
Yahmez: Cev, did you say you are still tweaking MobBob?
Yahmez: *shakes off troll outfit* Heh sorry guys, I just am not gonna stand for that kinda bull.
I agree with OB1. Please I agree with OB1. Please look at other threads, and you’ll find that there is some name calling and outright impoliteness. This really isn’t a moderate community.
And the shout box is less moderated. The SB is where people can say pretty much anything they want. I have been offended by some things there and just didn’t comment on them. I’d ignore the SB comments. This is a very odd community and we generally like it.
And some of my posts have gone beyond unfriendly right into telling people they were wrong. When I’ve done that and been wrong, I’ve appologized.
Your post was correct and most people agreed with you.
As for Noah, well… Every family needs an overactive over friendly lab puppy. Not saying he’s a dog, but I don’t think I was ever that enthusiastic.
At least he tries things and he has a lot of ideas. The ratio of good ideas to bad ideas is improving, but don’t tell him I said that. I have a rep as a grumpy old man to keep.
I’m not offended and my feelings aren’t hurt. I am aware of how the world is. There are plenty of people who behave like spoiled toddlers when they don’t get their way. Which is exactly my point. I said that Noah’s response of who cares if it blows up was unfriendly (mostly toward the person asking the question, not me.) I stand by that. To say I don’t care if the advice I give you causes your stuff to be destroyed is unfriendly. You (and Yahmez) are free to disagree. I never condemned Noah, nor will I do that now. I pointed out that it was unfriendly, and I stand behind doing that. But when Yahmez disagreed he(?) very much took the low road, thus very strongly making the case for this being an unfriendly place. One or two others chimed in and urged him on
I have no problems with Noah, and I am very sorry that he got drug into this nonsense. I have an issue with his initial advice and his response, and I said what I thought. I had no idea he was 14, and it doesn’t matter. Anyone saying things like that should have it pointed out to them, whether they are 14 or 74. I will not apologize for that. If I am a terrible person for that then I will just have to remain a terrible person.
Perhaps Yahmes is the minority, but he will have his say. I won’t make any more posts or comments anywhere else. The only reason I posted this and continue to comment is to point out to others who may feel different how a few people are giving this site a bad reputation. As I stated in the post, I have already made up my mind. But if you (the collective group) want to keep a good reputation, you might want to reign in the loose cannons. It’s not for me to say how this site should be run. I will be gone soon enough.
I am sure there are plenty of really nice and good people here. But that isn’t my first impression. I do hope you all have a nice day.
I have no problem with you I have no problem with you or your response, except your choice of the word “unfriendly”, which seems to be a sticking point with you. Perhaps we are using the language in two different ways.
Noah’s initial response was very friendly. It also happened to be wrong, but he did say that it worked for him and that he wasn’t sure of it. He accepts criticism well.
His response that it was only a $9.00 board, well I’ll admit that that was insensitive, but still not unfriendly.
I have no problem with your response. You’re the one blowing it up much bigger than it should be. I think this is a semantic argument.
The remarks in the SB to you were unfriendly. Noah’s posts in this instance were incorrect and insensitive.
Haven’t you had a friend who believed in a flat rate income tax or that we never made a moon flight or didn’t know how to wire a house properly, and still let their opinions be known and were quite willing to give (bad) advice?
I’m a n00b of LMR, but a I’m a n00b of LMR, but a long term veteran of dance music forum and if there is any advice I could give, it’s that if you take anything on the internet seriously enough to be personally offended then you are doing it wrong.
The shoutbox is really ephemeral, doesn’t store old messages, is real easy to tamper with(like change text on a html page) and it’s public to all. You can see online members just under the shoutbox also.
Posts are persistent and any conversation which need to last more than 10min or helpful should be written as posts.
I sometime post incorrect advice, even if i try to document myself as best i can before posting. To be totally safe read all contents “AS IS” , with all the faults and mistakes
